Qwen3.8 Flash Next on 2x 8 GB (Plean PP2)
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| Reported 2 x 8 GB | |
| Quant | Mixed INT4 AutoRound (Minachist/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-INT4-Mixed-AutoRound, about 65 GB) with the full BF16 PLE table on NVMe |
|---|---|
| Engine | vLLM 0.29.1rc1 nightly plus the checkpoint author's patches |
| Topology | PP2, MTP 3, no P2P |
| Context | 262,144 (256K in the post) |
| Decode | 197 tok/s |
| Prefill | 5800 tok/s |
| VRAM per card | 64 GB |
| Flags | --pipeline-parallel-size 2, MTP 3 draft tokens, max concurrency 6, BF16 PLE table offloaded to NVMe |
| Tested | @plean. on 2026-10-07 |
| Source | link |
| Confirmations | Partly reproduced by @galygious (8 GB), 2026-10-08 · details |
Plean's setup for Qwen3.8 Flash Next on two 64 GB cards: vLLM pipeline parallel 2, MTP speculative decoding, and the
full BF16 PLE (n-gram) table offloaded to NVMe instead of held on the cards. It uses Minachist's mixed INT4 AutoRound
checkpoint and runs up to 6 concurrent requests with a 256K context window. P2P is off on his rig because of a chipset
issue with how lanes are assigned between his motherboard and CPU, so it needs neither P2P nor the x16 mod. The full
write-up is on his site, linked in the infobox. Infobox numbers are from the localairecipes listing of this build
(predictable output; see below).
Source: @plean., 2026-10-07
Source: @plean., 2026-10-07
Source: @plean., 2026-10-07
Prerequisites
- Two CMP 170HX at 64 GB (Driver unlock, 8 GB card). No P2P needed; PP2 passes only activations, so x4 links work.
- A fast NVMe for the BF16 PLE table (about 95 GiB) and about 64 GB of host RAM.
- The checkpoint Minachist/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-INT4-Mixed-AutoRound (gated; body about 65-67 GiB).
Source: @plean., 2026-10-07
Source: @darkmaniac7, 2026-10-27 (lab notes)
Steps
Follow Plean's write-up at bozocentral.com. In outline, as listed on localairecipes and in Ivan's notes:
- Pull the vLLM image
vllm-openai 0.29.1rc1.dev47and apply the checkpoint author's patches (16 patch files, local build). - Download the Minachist INT4-Mixed AutoRound checkpoint (revision
6a995be5in the listing). - Serve with pipeline parallel 2 and MTP 3, the BF16 PLE table memory-mapped from NVMe, 262K context. The listing reports a 1.8M-token BF16 KV pool.
- Plean serves it through llama-swap; set the concurrency you need (he runs 6).
Source: @darkmaniac7, 2026-10-27 (lab notes)
Measured numbers
- Per stream, from Plean: about 100 tok/s each with 2 streams and about 80 each with 3 to 4. Per-stream speed drops because vLLM runs prefill and decode one after the other here (OB88594). DUFRelic has the same problem on his setup: 120 tok/s for one stream and only about double that at 4 concurrent. Source: @plean., 2026-10-07
Source: @ob88594, 2026-10-07
Source: @dufrelic, 2026-10-07 - localairecipes listing of this build (rev 74b4d06): 197-201 tok/s on predictable output, 116-122 on thinking-heavy output for one user; 154-212 tok/s for 2 streams; prefill about 5,800 tok/s. Source: @darkmaniac7, 2026-10-27 (lab notes)
- For comparison, Mountains pointed 68x to another localairecipes entry, W4A16 with an INT4 PLE table on two x16-modded cards (PP2, MTP3), listed at 133 tok/s for one user and 245 at 4 concurrent; he was not sure he liked the INT4 PLE table. Source: @mountains1605, 2026-10-08
Known issues
- Ryko warns that a run-to-run variance issue he found in upstream vLLM (KL divergence that changed between identical runs) probably affects anyone serving this model with vLLM; his fix notes are in vektorprime/qwen38-flash-next-pp2 commit 32595fb. Plean's table is the full BF16 one on NVMe, which he expects to be unaffected. See Qwen3.8 Flash Next on 2x 8 GB (vektorprime PP2). Source: @vektor_prime, 2026-10-07
Source: @plean., 2026-10-07 - The checkpoint is gated on Hugging Face.
Variants
- GalyGames reproduced it on a Proxmox setup and added the huihui "decision matrix" abliteration to remove refusals for local coding. Source: @galygious, 2026-10-08
Related
Sources
- Plean's posts in the testing channel, 2026-10-07, and his write-up at bozocentral.com.
- Ivan's lab notes, 2026-10-27 (localairecipes listing).